Back from St. Louis Dream Center

June 25th, 2007

I’ve been silent for a while because I had no connection in St. Louis. We took a group of 13 teenagers and 3 adults to the St. Louis Dream Center, which was established and continues to be funded by Joyce Myer Ministries. This trip caused many intellecual and spiritual tensions to once again surface in my heart. As most of the 4 people who may read this all ready know, I grew up right in the middle of the Charismatic & Word/Faith movements. In my mid twenties I felt quite content to distance myself from these camps. There was much about this trip that reminded my of the old days and the old ways that were such a burden to me in times past. I experienced some parts of Charismatic culture for which I do not care. I witnessed scenes in the prayer room & devotions that might be great if I were wanting to film an intellectually dishonest documentary and call it, say, Jesus Mission. I also sensed some of the old “be careful to do this and not do this so that you can be annointed” spirituality that left me feeling like a constant unannointed failure.

But I also took time to listen to stories of the people whose lives are radically different both temporily and eternally because of the constant sacrificial efforts of my charismatic brothers and sisters. I engaged a world that allowed me to see the silliness of wasting my time pontificating about postmodernism and pagan philosophy if it is does not lead me to incarnationally connect with the suffering and the lost with the unambiguous call to follow Jesus as Lord - not simply because it is right, but because it is their (and my) only hope. I have spent so much time in my theological smugness and intellecual pride because I moved beyond the individualistic spirituality of “folk religion” and realtistically acknowledged my doubts. The problem was that my doubts eventually became the only things I aknowledged. This week those who live by a much simpler faith served to rebuke the stupid self deception of my so called intellectual superiority.

It was so easy for me to judge the over the top emotionalism of the long haired dude who made me feel uncomfortable in the prayer meeting. He was unlearned and cute in comparison to my passionless and joyless pseudo prayer. Then I heard part of his story; his past prison sentence and self destructive lifestyle. I remembered working with him 3 years ago when he first came to the Dream Center just out of prison. I could see the quantitative transformation that this guy had undergone during his time in the culturally charismatic outreach center. I experience the inspirational moral influence of his childlike joy in following Jesus. He had the audacity to believe that God might speak to him as he sought Him in prayer and bible meditaion during his “quiet time” - a practice I abandoned long ago in favor of more enlightened ways of seeking God. I felt as though I was reminded of what Jesus might have meant when He said that we must come like children.

I am not saying that I want to reembrace the trappings of charismatic cultural, but something in me changed. I realized that the moments in my life that have been the most joyful and in which I felt most alive were in the context of a charismatic pursuit of God the Holy Spirit and in seeking to reach out to those in need of experiencing a personal relationship with Jesus. In some ways, I am and always will be a charismatic christian and I am at peace with that.

Just the other day I had a quiet time. God was present and it was good and I did a better job of loving.

“Perhaps it’s time to make a simple decision: that we will believe the things we believe and therefore allow them to overwhelm us and to doubt the things we doubt and therefore deny them their power.”

Pete Greig, The Vision and The Vow

I am convinced that Pete is right and I am making the decision. Later pilgrims.

 

 

 

 

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  • 1. Justin  |  June 25th, 2007 at 12:47 pm

    Last night I was thinking about you and what you would ask me when we had lunch again.

    I knew you would ask me where my faith lay now. This post explains some about how I feel with my spirituality. I have just come to accept whatever I believed before and not cared about a lot of things. I have lost most of my joy in seeking.

    To be brutally honest, I don’t have a will to try to fix any of that right now. I feel like I’m working on fixing my physical life and in a transition period where I’m about to be doing a lot of new things with my life, and that I’ll have to focus on my spirituality later.

    I know people would say aren’t those two lives the same or interleaved? I just don’t feel like that right now, I guess it comes from my matter of fact mentality, and that everyday physics always happen, that obstacles of life can be fairly accurately factored in and estimated in outcome. That statistical analysis works.

    Anyhow we’ll need to get lunch soon :) Not today though for sure I’ve been coming down with some kind of sickness.

  • 2. Brandon  |  June 25th, 2007 at 10:01 pm

    This is a great post. Very real and honest.

    There are lots of parallels to my life in this post and it has spurred on some thinking.

    Thanks.

  • 3. Justin  |  June 26th, 2007 at 12:05 am

    http://www.google.com/search?q=artie+farve+ardmore

    Artie you are one famous dude :)

  • 4. Artie  |  June 26th, 2007 at 8:57 am

    Thanks, B. We sure missed you in St. Louis and we told a lot of Brandon & Brian Benn stories on the way up - the ukalalee story was a crowd favorite.

    J - Call me when you are well and we will eat taco salad and talk more about the question you knew I’d ask. Also, I don’t think my Ardmore Forum account got activated, I’ll try again today.

    My one claim to fame - an national story about my dismal failure with money!

  • 5. Justin  |  June 27th, 2007 at 3:22 am

    It should work with afarve and whatever password you tried to register with.

    http://www.ardmoreforum.com/justin

    Got you a story :)

  • 6. adam  |  July 2nd, 2007 at 1:06 am

    i am very glad to hear that, well read that. that’s wonderful.

    i dont know exactly how being a charismatic christian differs from other kinds (or i do and i dont realize it, cause i might have been brought up in that tradition) but i do know that God has never been interested in form, only in substance. and since that is what you are speaking to, the substance, i doubt He could be more pleased, and no doubt different forms exist to suit different people,

    or, perhaps to show us that entirety, the whole, real truth, real identity, is a union of many and not an infinity of one.

    im glad those kids have you artie, im sorry, at times, the rest of the world does not. take care

  • 7. adam  |  July 12th, 2007 at 1:57 am

    you realize that it is july 12th in some parts of the world and the 11th in others and thus we have not drunk a drop of wisdom in almost a fortnight. also, do you read Yeats much, if not I recommend a change

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